^ a lot of them are obsessed with the "aesthetics" of tech and programming, the appearance of being an elite hacker rather than actually being one. the r/programming crowd is different, it's actual working professionals, not posers that endlessly tinker with their linux ricing setup and have a lain wallpaper.

^ that soup was a spoiled broth!

cant say ive ever had pleasant experiences with "tech chan" people. they're usually the most insufferable neckbeards imaginable and have a dunning-kruger lack of ability on top of it. i think the only worse place ive seen is /r/programming but they're pretty well tied in the types of people they attract.

i'm just glad matty's getting stuff done. the last soupchan was... a different story.

^^ we're all in plato's cave. wizkids were on one side of the cave, you were on the other side, and you and they were shown two different shadows. you think your shadows are more true than theirs because it's more positive and life affirming, but you are just as deluded as them. you both simply take your lived experience as reality and base your beliefs on what you've experienced. if people treated you kindly your entire life, you come out believing that people are fundamentally kind. if people treated you like shit, you believe the opposite. that's all there is to it. your experience don't match theirs, so you have trouble accepting their beliefs. if you were bullied and treated like shit, if you had panic attacks when going outside, you would understand the wizardly urge to become a shut-in, but you fundamentally lack these experiences, your life was different so you believe different things and have different "solutions".

>tranny scriptkiddies, a perfect match for the tranny scriptkiddie running this very site!

lets see your amazing work

It's 2026, everything is vibe coded. you're not making some sharp observation.

I buy my servers per year and this one runs all my other projects. so yeah, that ones not happening. im already paying for this for other things so it costs me nothing extra.

it is

platos allegory of the cave to BTFO of shut-ins = kinda genius

^ sorta, it's mostly the same crowd that browses wizchan, but the rules are more lax. just think of it as a place to share your feels and shower thoughts, whether they're depressing or happy.

^ expect that's the issue. when you're young you lack the knowledge to tell what's a shadow and what's reality. and the more time you spend in the cave, the more time you'll mistake these beliefs for reality. at worse, you'll become a defeatist dep crab and never leave at all. some of these people even kill themselves. wizchan has one of the most active suicide boards on the web but what makes it unusual is theres almost no push back or oversight in the threads.

apparently outsiders saying thats weird are the strange ones though. again, under these beliefs if you don't agree with it you're just a "normie" and have lost credibility in the cave. leaving this (and trying to find something more positive) is itself taken as a signal to disqualify any evidence that the concepts might be harmful. so the community becomes a circle jerk that can never accept opposing evidence.

^ (cont.) your analogy would track with amish kids or like heavily homeschooled and sheltered kids. anyone that has spent their entire childhood in the hellscape that is public schools has the right to opt-out at 18 because they've seen all they needed to see, in my opinion. still, in my case, i gave it a shot and went to uni and even worked for a couple years, it didn't change my opinion of other people and it made me actively suicidal until i became a shut-in. young wizkids, from what i've seen, usually still have some positive outlook left in them, they still try to self-improove, they're willing to try anything just to be normal, but it often doesn't work out. the /dep/crabs you see are actually people in their late 20s, disillusioned by real life, wishing they never even tried so they saved themselves the extra trauma and false hope.

Is this website seriously just wizchan but without images? I used to post on wiz but I eventually stopped because everyone there was depressing. My fellow wizzies need to lighten up

there's like 5 users, bro. just get a droplet server for like 5 bucks a month or something lol